The Historical Triangle in Belize featuring Garbutt’s Falls

Historical Triangle in Belize Summary of Part 3 Garbutt’s Falls Video

Historical Triangle in Belize. Now we will explore the final part of the Belize Triangle Garbutt’s Falls. 

Learn about how the ICJ vote came about and what the third part of the triangle symbolizes for Belize. Tune in as we wrap up the Belize triangle trilogy. 

If you missed Part 1, Click here to view the Video speaking of TIPU

If you missed Part 2, click here to view the Video speaking of CLARISSA FALLS

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Hey, it’s Macarena. And we are back with Belize Talk Radio. We’re going to tie together the triangle now at last. So Don Hector has told us about Tipu and how that’s part of the Gualamana dispute, why it literally isn’t something that’s feasible.

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And the second part was Paslow Falls, Clarissa Falls and all of that stuff of why those areas were named that and how important they were for Belize’s history. And the third part, we are headed to the border, the border, Guatemala. And we’re going to go to the Guatemala and Belize border right there.

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And there’s an actual neat thing that you’re going to want to see about that. Stay tuned.

Historical Triangle in Belize continuing with Part 3

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Welcome back, everybody. This is the end of the triangle. It’s the other part. And we are here with my buddy, Don Hector Silva, we have made a journey. If you can’t tell, we got a little dirty, didn’t we? That’s right. But this trooper made it right through this hike and we ended up here and we decided we have to sit down to do this part of this.

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Made it. We made it. So take the floor. Where in goodness names are we? Where have you taken me now? No, we are here at the fulfillment of the 1859 treaty. Remember that prior to the treaty, Belize was even larger than, what we are today.

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Belize extended almost to Tikal. Listen this carefully. But the British agreed on the Guatemalans that they will run a line direct from Gracias A Dios, on this salt stone to this monument here and the one at Tres Banderas in Orange Walk that gives us our border.

Borders between Guatemala and Belize were Created

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But it’s so important because in 1859, Guatemala agreed with England to create borders between Guatemala and Belize.

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The reason being that an American invaded Nicaragua and declared himself President of Nicaragua. So the Guatemalans, Salvadorians and all them got jittery that this fellow will invade them.

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So President of Guatemala went to the United States, I mean to England and agreed that they will agree that, this is British territory. And England that used to be the super in the waves would defend Guatemala against any aggression.

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So said so done, they signed the thing. In 1859, they agreed that the borders would be as stipulated in this Anglo Guatemalan treaty.

Guatemala has no claim over Belize, The Historical Triangle in Belize

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But I want you all to listen again to what I said. And I want to tell everybody Guatemala has no claim. And I’ll tell you what right here. Guatemala and England agreed that they would conjointly build a, mual and cart road.

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They never occurred in those days from Belize to Peten to extract the riches of Peten she claimed Mahagany or and, these are the big one. Or use the existing rivers of Belize that are the lee part where everybody, they hide all politicians, they hide it.

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All lawyers, they hide it. Everybody, they hide it. But Macarena Rose said come my way. Tell them. And here man tell you these are facts. They can’t deny it. I tell the good lawyers of Belize City why uno left this thing to go.

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So Guatemala use our rivers for everything. All their cargo for potentials to come to Cayo. That is boat off 26 boats used to be all of them for them food right through here. And then the mules used to bring it from Cayo up to Peten.

Guatemala used the Belize Rivers for Free

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So the Belize river actually was used and abused by Guatemala because it never used to pay nothing for their cargo to go and come. So article 7 is null and void because Guatemala use our rivers and they approve where we are right ahead there, La Bacadilla.

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Thousands of logs used to be dumped there. And when this river go up high, they throw the logs into the river and they carry them through Branch Mouth to boat Burrell Boom. Right in Benque and in Cayo, where the market is, that was a Baccadier where logs should be dumped.

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And when the rivers come, they carry the logs. So Guatemala has no claim. That’s why Mr. George Price said I will not give them one square centimeter. And Philip Goldson answered and, not a blade of grass.

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These are facts. These are not inventions that I come to tell you and I have told them. But something played in between that some of our politicians got weak or Guatemala became very generous to them that they agreed to go to a court when this was settled long ago.

The Monument on the Border with Guatemala, The Historical Triangle in Belize

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Even our independence at the United Nations, all the nations voted for us except Guatemalan upset. So where is the claim? So this monument here is a blessed. When I saw it first, I tell you I got moved.

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I got moved and I got kissed. I said, this is my country. This represents my country. The only country that I have that we have yet we are going to give it up.

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So this confirms what Tipu did, what Clarissa did. This confirms that Belize is sovereign. Belize has a, border. And Belize should not give 1 square centimeter of land or a blade of grass.

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No, you ask me a question that you want. Why you think I might have a question? I have more. I always have more. Tell me more. Tell me more. So Hector, when was this monument installed here? 1934.

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1934. That was a long time ago. From Gracias A Dios to here. from Gracias A Dios to here was completed in 1934. Done by engineer Jim Witt and Mr.

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Fairweather. Yes. Anybody who asks question. So Mr. Fairweather and Jim Waight, because of the being surveyors, they were employed by the Belize government and Guatemala government, but they were surveyors to run the line from here.

The location of the Guatemala and Belize border Garbutt Falls

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And they met almost a few feet apart. But then they so this is the true border, between Belize and Guatemala. And then this border, run right over. That’s why they call it the border Garbutt Falls.

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It runs right over Garbutt Falls. See, they road over the other side. Belize here, Guatemala here. So these people are on Guatemala if they crossed there in Belize. So this is the border that goes straight up to Orange Walk, straight up the border till you reach the Orange Walk border.

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So the fall is the border. And that’s where I told you that the river enters Belize at this point here. That’s right. So we are sitting literally in Belize, in Belize, that piece of river that has been over Guatemala.

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Good. Any other questions? Well, I guess my question would be is that’s been there since 1934. 1934. So I’m kind of confused. Yeah. How would we not be Belize? No, we are in Belize though.

66 Foot Reserve called No Mans Land The Historical Triangle in Belize

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No, but I mean in Belize, yeah, that’s been there since 1940. But there should be a, distance of 66 foot reserve called no man’s land. Okay. And that’s the one where we were standing here.

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The border dispute is an invention created, and I’m trying to be, to be bolder. An invention created in 1981 when heads of agreement was presented to the people on the eve of Independence Day.

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An illegal, head of agreement was drafted not by the government, but by some people in government whereby they were giving Guatemala everything that Guatemala wanted. Free access to our roads, pipelines to be Belize City.

Belize protested lead by Socorro Bobadilla

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Dangriga to Punta Gorda. They had right to go find over there under the sea and a lot of rubbish. But the Belizean people protested, they rioted, they burned down buildings, broke up every store led by a heroine named Socorro Bobadilla.

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Bobadilla. Socorro Bobadilla. Raised all the students and people of Belize and they went and broke down the whole Albert street and burned down building a young girl from technical college.

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And so this is the story of Belize that heads up agreement was pushed in for some purpose. Mr. Price said, I read it, I did not agree with it and this will not go through.

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But it was left there in abeyance. And so from there on the whole thing started. Guatemala said, aha, I got friends. At the least I got them. See, they pushed through the head of agreement and other things that they pushed afterwards.

Compromise is the worst thing

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Compromise, compromise is the worst things. Then here adjacent zone. According to that, this is not a frontier. This is an adjacency zone. One kilometer, in other words, Guatemala would have right one kilometer from here.

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And we have right one Kilometer here that’s the agreement of the adjacency zone. Then they put one thing when confidence building measure and they signed it. And Guatemala said thank you, I will take over the Sarstoon.

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And he took over. The Sarstoon is not ours. And that people must not be fooled. This Sarstoon is in the hands of Guatemala, our own property. Look how they handle the people there. Even they be there.

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The big shot from the army, the coroner or general I think went and put in. He had to stoop down near the door and water. Then they said look, we are going to television pointing at our general. That is the biggest humiliation that Belize has gone through because our crazy giddy headed politicians told Guatemala stay in the island.

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And they told the cops get out. You know, get out, obstruct yourself. That’s what the former prime minister Dean Barrow said. Obstract yourself from there. Guatemala said thank you and he took over this Sarstoon So this is again important in our history.

 Anglo-Guatemalan Treaty for trade, The Historical Triangle in Belize

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This monument in particular. This is what divides us. This is what exactly, exactly was intended in the treaty, in the Anglo-Guatemalan Treaty for trade for you know, so many things you remember.

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Yeah. Contraband Alley you have that on borders. So this is more or less the culmination of this great important program today.

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That to me is a fulfillment of the definition of Belize. Tipu Clarissa Paslow and the monument that makes Belize the triangle.

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The triangle. We have actually been so blessed to be able to cover the whole triangle. Yes we did. Really? I didn’t thought we were going. I thought I knew we would. If we go through this we can take it this, this will be a book to be published because it has every, every fact about about Belize.

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But they tell you how many governors were had all the Mayan villages that were along the rivers it is right here. So then lawyers one way said that when the British come there were no Mayas. He said the Mayas are left and crazy place be full of Mayan village right up to Xaibe and all of those places.

Follow the story of the Triangle in Belize

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So Don Hector. Yes in closing if you could come up with a phrase or a sentence to share that would really let people know that Belize is for we.

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What would you say? Follow the triangle. The story of the triangle. The Mayas defeated the Spaniards at Tipu. Chase them. Go, go, go. We don’t want to. The Spaniards went back to Yucatan and they came in 1796 first and took away all the settlers to Cuba prisoners.

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Then they came back in 1798 to attack Belize. But the settlers were prepared Jamaica sent some of their warships the Merlin one of them. And so the Spaniards gone. Not a shot was fired.

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Nobody dead. The death of cholera, but not of guns. Then from there we went Clarissa. Clarissa is a living proof that there was a, man that owned that place that married to a Creole young girl, Clarissa Carter.

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And they took her to Belize. And they were the one that stood in favor of not abandoning Belize and Captain Larry to abandon. But Paslow won that one.

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And then here is when it was affirmed that Belize has a sovereign territory. This monument said, you can’t move this monument here. Because this is the one that divides us. That proves that there is a separation.

The Monument tells us the Truth

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If there was no monument here, maybe the border would have been by the river edge. But this tells us the truth. And this has been here for what, 90 odd years? 92 years. 92 something. 1934. Not 25 years.

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So this is it. This is the story that must be told to every child, to every adult, to every school, to every university, to every high school. The story about Belize in a nutshell.

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The triangle. The triangle. The triangle. Keller Williams, is supporting us in this. Keller Williams, the realtor, real estate, big company. They are lending was this young lady who make a.

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Come here sometime. Save me from falling down. Distract me. But I’m going. Thank you very much, Constable. We appreciate your presence. My friends over there. I am, glad that you are here. But you always see this in video in the button.

The whole World needs to know the Story of the Historical Triangle in Belize

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Yes, we’ll put it. It will be published. Yeah. So the whole world will hear this story. And if they want call on me and I will tell you exactly where I get my facts. Good. Right here. But he’s also a historian, so you know, that’s the old computer.

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Thank you all so much for joining us. Thanks for caring about learning more about the actual history and the triangle that Don Hector told me year, you know, quite a while ago that he wanted to do a story on. We’ve done lots of stories, but this one’s pretty interesting. This. It’s the top one of my mind, that triangle.

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So. Thanks for joining us today again, Don Hector. It’s always a privilege. Thank you so much. Macarena. Mission accomplished.